One of my father’s friends used to joke, the way history is being written and rewritten according to the convenience of the establishment, one day the world would know Indira Gandhi as Mahatma Gandhi’s daughter. I used to laugh at him. Not anymore , anything is possible in India. Rajput Sabha head, Narendra Singh Rajawat says- Jodhabai was the daughter of Motaraja Udai Singh of Marwar and was married to Akbar’s son Salim alias Jehangir. Mughal king Shahjahan was her son. The Rajput community is protesting against Ashutosh Gowariker’s historical epic ‘Jodhaa Akbar’ because Ashutosh Gowariker is presenting Jodhabai as Mughal emperor Jalaluddin Akbar’s wife, which is factually incorrect according to some of them. Rajawat said such distortion of historical facts had hurt the feelings of the Rajput community.
Gowariker says- “I have referred to books like A History of Jaipur by Jadunath Sarkar, Kachhvahon Ka Itihaas by Jagdish Gehlot and other works by KL Khurana and Hari Shankar Sharma. All call Akbar’s wife with various names like Harkha, Man Mati, Shai Bai etc.I agree there is a confusion regarding the name,I consulted the Royal family of Jaipur that gave me the nod to use the name Jodha.
However some historians have a contradictory view-
Historian Satish Chandra, author of NCERT History books says- “Historical documents, including Akbarnama and Jehangir’s memoirs, say it was not Akbar but Jehangir who got married to the House of Jodhpur. So the princess was later called Jodhabai,” says historian Satish Chandra, author of NCERT History books.
Historian Mohammad Amin- “Akbar forged alliances with Rajput families and he married the daughter of Raja Bharmal of Amber, who was later titled Maryam Rahmani or the Mother of Rulers of the Universe. But there is no evidence to say that she was called Jodhabai.”
SZH Jafri, head of the department, History, DU blames the epic film Mughal-E-Azam-”A whole generation grew up believing what Mughal-E-Azam showed as accurate account of Mughal history. But accurate history said something else.”
The royal families have stood in defence of the movie saying that they had been involved in the making of the movie. The Jaipur Royal family has come forward in support of Gowarikar. The heirs of Kishengarh dynasty have also come forward to support the director. Former Royal Brajraj Singh said that they had already made changes in the script where required and there was no point of opposition now. ‘Mughal-E-Azam’ was and is accepted and appreciated by Indians including the Rajputs for more than 4 decades why protest now? Why was this not highlighted during the shooting of the film?The Karni Sena would watch the movie when released, and if required it would not allow
its screening in the state according to the president of Rajput Karni Sena, Lokendra Kalvi. Do we actually need a censor board? The fate of ‘Parzania’ is decided by hardliners in Gujarat, ‘Da Vinci Code’ release is dictated by a few christians, saffron brigade has problems with some films, the hardliners in muslims have issues with some other films. Religion and caste is not the only issue deciding the fate of the film a Haryana-based animal rights activists group called People For Animals (PFA) has filed a police complaint and a public suit against the entire crew of Jodha Akbar at Jaipur. PFA says that the movie used over 80 elephants, 100 horses and 55 camels for the shooting, without the proper care or any medical facilities for them. How many Indians are surviving without medical facilities in India nobody even bothers to know.
its screening in the state according to the president of Rajput Karni Sena, Lokendra Kalvi. Do we actually need a censor board? The fate of ‘Parzania’ is decided by hardliners in Gujarat, ‘Da Vinci Code’ release is dictated by a few christians, saffron brigade has problems with some films, the hardliners in muslims have issues with some other films. Religion and caste is not the only issue deciding the fate of the film a Haryana-based animal rights activists group called People For Animals (PFA) has filed a police complaint and a public suit against the entire crew of Jodha Akbar at Jaipur. PFA says that the movie used over 80 elephants, 100 horses and 55 camels for the shooting, without the proper care or any medical facilities for them. How many Indians are surviving without medical facilities in India nobody even bothers to know.
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76 Comments
February 2, 2008 at 10:56 am
When Mangal Pandey was released there was a huge controversy and it affected the film’s box office collection. I wonder if this controversy will affect this film’s running. I personally see every film (even a historical one) as fiction
and therefore am able to enjoy it. I loved Mangal Pandey as it was well made. I guess as long as film-makers don’t make a film about my family 
I am fine with it!
February 2, 2008 at 12:30 pm
@ Prerna: The tragedy lies in that more people learn their history from cinema than through scholarly exploration. Remember U-571?
February 2, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Shefaly,actually history itself represents the views of the historian in so many cases.The uprising of 1857 is the first war of independence for the people of the subcontinent but is a revolt for the British historians.Nehru version of history in ‘Glimpses of World History’and ‘Discovery of India’seems nearer to the truth to me.
There is a historical serial by the name of ‘Prithviraj Chauhan’ on Star Plus.It cannot be called historically correct by any standards but I know people who believe that every word of it is true.It is based on ‘Chand Bardai’s’version of the events which was more literary than realistic.
Nita,I am looking forward to watching Jodha Akbar.I hope it does well on the box office.I would like to see every film as fiction but it does make an impact somewhere. Anarkali may be an imaginative character still because of some real names and characters woven in the story you tend to be fooled by it.
February 3, 2008 at 11:46 am
When a person gets old he likes to look back adhere to his golden days, as he has no future. Attitudes of Indian people , in whole, sometime get me worried.
Why nobody bothered when Shahrukh Khan messed up with the entire history of Ashok (I wonder why I have to spell and pronounce , Ashok’a’ in the english language )the greatest ruler of the greater India.
Perhaps, as many beliefs prevailing in India, we say that everything is eternal and nothing is new, and thats why India has shown little interest in recording history. It is British historian who took most pain to record history of India, and still we have to refer to them for preciseness of OUR history. Nice post, and apologies for the diversion.
February 3, 2008 at 3:08 pm
It is not even Ashoka JV, it is Asoka.
//When a person gets old he likes to look back adhere to his golden days, as he has no future. Attitudes of Indian people , in whole, sometime get me worried.//things are changing,India shining is making a difference.Indians have started talking about the furure.Future super power,future economic superpower in 2020 and other optimistic ideas.
Thanks JV.
February 3, 2008 at 4:57 pm
I have seen the trailer and the movie is def. a must watch.
As far as the controversy is concerned everyone has its own version of everyday events, even the ones that are televised globally.
February 4, 2008 at 10:47 am
Being a rajput, I clearly don’t know whats the exact story behind this but whatever it is must be first clarified by historians than by movies.. That creates a long lasting impression of our community in even our own people and thus only truth shud be shown..
I don;t feel its wrong if people stop its release by whatever means..
February 13, 2008 at 7:59 am
Iam a big fan of Ashutosh Gowariker. He is one of the few filmmakers in India who have clarity of thought and go about their craft with as much honesty/integrity as possible.
I have been following this controversy in the media and it seems Ashutosh has blundered a bit this time in terms of factual accuracy. After reading through what various historians said, it’s quite obvious that there is hardly any certainty with regards to existence of Jodhabhai. Although it’s a matter of debate that how much fiction one should add while making period movies, I personally feel that main characters and story should be as accurate as possible even if it’s a mainstream movie.
February 13, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Welcome and thanks for your views @ lallopallo.I too am a big fan of Ashutosh Gowariker.The promos of Jodha Akbar look good.What Ashutosh Gowariker says about this controversy is that he read all different versions of the story and went with the most accepted one.Let us watch it as film and not as a lesson of history. May be we will be able to enjoy it more.
February 15, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Hi,
There should be some law in India which can be used to have a check on this kind of film making which has direct impact on our history. How the censor board and the other historians are keeping mum on this Gwarikor’s film issue. This director is playing with our history for making his wealth. This is not acceptable he should be punished for changing the history.
February 16, 2008 at 2:35 am
Thanks for welcoming me dear. Yes, me too will watch the movie not necessarily for a lesson in history
February 16, 2008 at 4:35 am
who cares? and how does it matter whether Jodha bai was Akbar’s wife OR Salim’s. Few illiterate stupid convinced bunch of idiots about history and they involved in guda-gardi… shame man… shame on us… throw these fundamentalist out of our country, because they are sick.
February 17, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Jodhabai was an Asian royal from India, it belived that Jodhabai was the main wife of Akbar and the mother of Jahangir. However the literary sources clearly mention that the wife of Akbar named Mariam-uz-Zamani was Jahangir’s mother. This is because Jodha Bai changed her name to Mariam-uz-Zamani.
One of Akbar’s minor wives was Jodhi Bibi, daughter of Rao Mal Deo of Jodhpur from a concubine Tipu Paswan. She married Akbar in 1581.
whatever the movies made on history had touched the controversy and it made the people to know about the kings and his kingdoms who ruled india , and we should appreciate the effort of the director and producer to expose the hidden truth and history should not be blunder like one day indian should not see Indira Gandhi as Mahatma Gandhi’s daughter.
February 17, 2008 at 2:22 pm
hey i saw film promo on tv, and saw jodhabai is wife of HRITIK ROSHAN ..WHAT A RUBBISH THE KALWI RAJPUT SAYING ….. ENJOY MOVEE YAR
February 18, 2008 at 4:49 am
Well I watched the movie with my family in one of the theatres which is 98km from my town last weekend and found it vey ineresting, and enjoyable.we came to know the life history of some of the kings who ruled india. As we are from the Pacific Islands and have very little knowledge of our ancient history , it is only through films that we came to know about some of the rulers of india.I thank Mr Ashutosh . G. for making such a big film and hope in future he keeps on making movies like this
Roshni Kumar , Fiji Islands
February 18, 2008 at 3:10 pm
I saw the movie on 15 feb and loved it.I also read about the contorversy. In wikipedia I got the following matter.
“According to Professor Shirin Moosvi, a historian of Aligarh Muslim University, the name “Jodha Bai” was first used to refer to Akbar’s wife in the 18th and 19th centuries in historical writings.[7] According to the historian Imtiaz Ahmad, the director of the Khuda Baksh Oriental Public Library in Patna, the name “Jodha” was used for Akbar’s wife for the first time by Lieutenant-Colonel James Tod, in his book Annals and Antiquities of Rajasthan.”
So there are many historians who have made a mistake of using he word Jodha Bai for Akbar’s wife then why can’t we forgive Ashutosh Gowariker who has otherwise made a damn gud movie and deserves all the cheers.
You must go and watch the film for an extra ordinary experience.
February 18, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Welcome muneer mohamood and Kanishka.Thanks for your valuable inputs.
Thanks Arindam, Roshni and Prakash.
It is a pleasure to know that people who left India long time back are still interestted in Indian History.
February 19, 2008 at 1:27 am
well the govt can always make a ministry for controversy affairs , on the lines of ministry for vice and virtues it will benefit everyone
1. some politician in the upa will be accommodated
2. it will free up court time to make it focus on serious things
3. it will help with gathering votes of those objecting to fictitious film plots
February 19, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Is there is no prob…. if somebody make movie in future with title like India after gnadhi and in that movie Indira gandhi is Mahatama gandhi daughter.
Will you accept that story and will u enjoy movie ????. and some body can say who cares indra gandhi is daughter of Neharu, Gandhi or jinaaah …..
February 19, 2008 at 4:11 pm
I think the movie is no where near the facts.In a healthy way, I am ready to debate with anyone.
As few of my friends have mentioned above about the name of Akbar’s wife.I will like to tell them that her real name was Hira Kunwari which was later changed to Mariam-uz-Zamani (after marriage).
The movie show that “Jodha” or Hira was after first wife which is false She was Akbar’s third wife.One of the wife of Akbar was Salima Sultan who was widow of Bairam Khan, which was shown alive in the movie when Akbar Married “Jodha” or Hera.
Princess Manmati or Jodha Bai or Jagat Gosain or Jodha Bibi was wife of Jahagir, Akbar’s Son.She was the mother of Shah Jahan.
Well if you name a movie with Sasur and Bahu love affair, then God Bless you.
As Writer and Director are playing with Historical facts.
God Bless
February 19, 2008 at 4:26 pm
I would like people to do bit research what “Noble” Akbar did in Chittorgarh ? Humble Akbar ordered his army to killed the remaining woman, children and olds in the fort and the same religious-tolerant Akbar distoryed Hindu monuments.
I dont want you to believe me blindly I want to do to some research urself , visit Chittorgrah and know the History urself.
February 19, 2008 at 4:50 pm
They duffer simply trying to make money, generally we r not reading history, by this kind of move serial we are knowing about history ( I m not taking about all). But if they will change history only for money i think its not right. In this movie they showed akhbar wife bex every one knw akhabar name ( more than jahagir or other mugal )…
And one more thing about akhabar he was not good human.. and he was nor secular, as u knw he started one tax ” jajiya kar ” that was only for Hindus and if any Hindus not able to pay that he has to accept Muslim religion, What d hell it was how any one can say he was good he respected all religous… He was simply ******……..
February 19, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Jajiya was removed by Akbar,not started by him, Kunwar.Haven’t you heard about ‘Din-e-Elahi’.This faith was supposed to include the good things from all the religions. Akbar started it. Unfortunately he didn’t succeed in popularising it.
//The movie show that “Jodha” or Hira was Akbar’s first wife which is false She was Akbar’s third wife.// I agree with this point Bharat.I don’t understand why people had no problem with ‘Jodha Bai’being called Akbar’s wife in the 60’s in Mughal-e Azam.
It is one Historian against the other.Ashutosh Gawarikar tried to clear your point about//Humble Akbar ordered his army to killed the remaining woman, children and olds in the fort and the same religious-tolerant Akbar distoryed Hindu monuments//by showing that Bairam Khan took the decisions for Akbar when Akbar was a young boy.However I haven’t heard about this particular incident.There is one incident relating to Akbar’s father which is quite famous.Rani Karnavati of Chittor sent a rakhi to the Mughal Emperor Humayun when she was threatened by Bahadur Shah of gujrat. Humayun abandoned an ongoing military campaign to ride to her rescue.
February 19, 2008 at 7:34 pm
That what miss he was diplomats, He started Din e elahi … that was his diplomacy …..
He converted lots of hindu to muslim, even more than aurangzeb ( aurangzeb did by muscle power ), ..
and if akhabar removed jajiya tax it means somebosy implemented before that ….
what i read in my history book I mentained above I think u onces again check it out ….
And u knw one another example of his diplomacy ….
U knw in muslim for there was only allah huuu …
in arabi only that much in his time his added his name allah hoo akhabar ……
what i heared frm my muslim friend …
so u can understand abt him ..
February 19, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Pr3rma, Due to lack of Information or various ways of communication at that time there was no problem.Except for few scholars No one knew much about History.
There was no peice of information which say Akbar wife was Jodha bai including Akbarnama or anyother related document.( i will be more than happy to see any documented proof, or even the name of Book will do).
About Chittor war fought in 1968 and Bairam Khan died in 1961, 7 yrs before Chittor war.
You are very much true about Humayun helping Chittor, that was his greatness but also dont forget that it was a rajput state which refuge him when his kingdom was taken by Sher Shah Suri, Akbar was also born in Sind,then ruled by Rajputs.Let me add 1 more info., the first mother milk which akbar drunk was from a Rajput mother becoz his mother was not able to have breast milk.
I think I have answered ur question.
February 19, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Bharat, you are proving my point by mentioning//Akbar was also born in Sind,then ruled by Rajputs.Let me add 1 more info., the first mother milk which akbar drunk was from a Rajput mother becoz his mother was not able to have breast milk.//Isn’t it sufficient reason to be soft towards Rajputs.
The only confusion is about the name.
Everybody mentions that Akbar had a Rajput wife.For once let us enjoy the film as a love story and nothing more than that.
February 20, 2008 at 2:11 pm
How u people r telling he was great human … he was simply diplomate…
February 20, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Kindly take a look on this —-
Maharana Pratap never accepted Akbar as ruler of India, and fought Akbar all his life. Akbar first tried diplomacy to win over Maharana Pratap but nothing worked. Pratap maintained that he had no intention to fight with Akbar but he could not bow down to Akbar and accept him as the ruler. Some scholars argue that there was some possibility that Maharana could have become friends with Akbar but in the siege of Chittor when Akbar killed 30,000 civilian, unarmed residents of Chittor, because they refused to convert to Islam, left a lasting impression on Maharana’s mind and he decided he cannot bow to such an unjust and cruel human being as Akbar was. (The Hindu warrior code was to refrain from attacking a non combatant or a person who has laid down his weapons).
February 20, 2008 at 5:47 pm
If that had Softed him, then surely He would have never killed innocent in Chittor.This was his intelligence that we made good relation with Rajputs, So did Auragzeb but is Auragzeb a Humble man?
Hrithik Roshan is playing the character of Akbar in a movie than doesnot it mean that Akbar was good human?, “Jodha” character is played by Ash, does it prove that she was Akbar wife? Why try to create a love story when there was none. I liked love story but there is no proof of Akbar-Hira love story. If there was than somewhere in History it would have mentioned, like Prithvi Raj and Sanyogita love story, Shah Jahan-Mumtaz…. Dont say that Amitabh have clearly mentioned it earlier, if it was so then surely Akbar had mentioned in biographies….
It was funny to see that they were filming things about there bed room, I wonder who did Aushutosh get information like that.Its a waste of talent and time for a director of Lagaan and swades.
Akbar was great Ruler but not a great Human.You can see that noone is saying anything about Akbar, but they are saying that facts regarding Hira Kunwari are totally false.
February 21, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Kuldip says: The Majority of the new films produced by the Bollywood industry are a direct waste of time.
I agree with Manoj bhai, the Bollywood film industry should not be allowed to go unchecked for: distorting, manipulating historical expereicnes and facts just so the public can identify with it.
The Director of Jodha and Akhbar has admitted the film is over 70% fiction. Perhaps he has had to do this becasue he is aware that the mainstream public want deluded, fantasy love stories.
This is indicitive mainly in India and the west of the public’s taste, because anything that is realistic, serious and historically fine will not do well in the ‘mainstream’.
Its even more concerning that people are more willing to learn and accept their history by watching distorted rubbish, portryaed by so-called actors and actresses who cannot act through appauling Bollywood movies.
February 21, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Guys you are all debating on the history and no one try to be in the producer shoes. To make a hit requires Masala and the movie is quite interesting. Let’s watch it as a fictious love story.
February 22, 2008 at 12:59 pm
i have seen the movie and frankly i liked it very much. i will not go into controversies about the truth of who was whose wife, i have visited all the locations in my recent vacation and truly each scene came real in my mind and i could actually visualise the relate to the characters. thanks to the director, producer and each member of the unit whose hard work paid off because we enjoyed the movie very much.
February 23, 2008 at 8:52 am
Thanks, Bharat,Kuldip,Veejay and Joya.
@Joya,I was planning to revisit all these locations and visualise these locations in a historical perspective.
February 24, 2008 at 7:35 pm
jodha was Akbar’s wife.ther is no meaning of stupid controversies.today’s generation is totaly unknown about history.such films are the only way to show HISTORY in front of young generation. i liked JODHA AKBAR VERY MUCH. i realy request MR:GOVARIKAR,TO MAKE ANOTHER FILM BASED ON HISTORY….
February 24, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Ashwini, “Stupis controversies” is a bit harsh word to use.I would rate it this “controversy” stupid name if any historic book of akbar time which say jodha was akbar wife( I am sure somewhere in history it should have mentioned)even a book name will do, if not than you words sound bit un-matured.
March 3, 2008 at 7:21 pm
I really salute n appreciate the movie made by Ashutosh gowariker.Salute n hatssoff to the movie n The director who has taken the hardships to make a fantastic movie Jodha-Akbar.The music,songs,cinmeatograhy everything was like we have really cum to the Akbars age.
Its an unknown fact to the ppl opposing ur movie for the silly reason coz they dunt know that as akbar was named akbar by his ppl jodja was named jodha too.
March 3, 2008 at 7:25 pm
jodha was the wife of Jallauddin akbar, daughter in law of king Humayun, mother of salim.
Jodha , daughter of the king of Amer Baharmal was the only girl in history to marry a Muslim Emperror,this is what i know atleast.
March 4, 2008 at 5:46 am
Hey here’s an idea, why not make a film that shows the truth of what muslims did in the past instead of showing all this fluff pieces of shit cinema?
Once again the world (and India specifically) ignores the TRUTH for fear of offending the precious muslims. Well i’m damn tired of it – i’m offended by the constant presence of muslims and their violence all around the WORLD that I hear about in the news. Every damn day I hear about muslims killing some group they are being “oppressed” by or another.
But then again, I doubt anyone would want to watch a factual film showing muslims raping, pillaging, and destroying indigenous cultures and people all the way across Iran (Zoroastrians) to East India – but it should be made instead of this Disney kids like approach to making films in India. But as always, Indians will just sweep it all under the rug and pretend it never happened, and instead fabricate happy-go-lucky films like this one that glorify aggression and war and the general barbarity of Islam.
March 4, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Don’t single out the Muslims @Kaffir.You will find examples of oppression and supression from all communities and religions.If you are offended by the presence of Muslims it is your problem and you have to handle it. Fortunately you can’t do anything about it.Violence is bad whosoever is responsible for it.
March 4, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Welcome and thanks for your views Aarti.
March 4, 2008 at 6:26 pm
@ kafir
Do you even have a real name, or you are so scared to reveal that to us Muslims.
March 4, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Oh and btw – your response is typical of muslim attitudes.
What, am I supposed to be “scared” of you or something? The time when you brutes can subjugate other people into your pathetic religion is over – the world is waking up to Islam for what it really is, and people are becoming aware that they don’t have to bow down to this Arab-Imperialism anymore. Everyone except India it would seem, but even that is changing now.
March 4, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Kafir do they name your kind or you guys end up with phony names like kafir
March 5, 2008 at 5:30 am
Maybe you can tell me who names those of us who don’t believe in your cult as “kafirs”. I expect you know what a dhimmi is too huh?
It is you muslims that keep dividing the world into dar al-islam, dar al-dawa and the like, or don’t you believe in these terms as described by your paedophile prophet?
Akbar was a thug, just like most muslims today. But guess what – people are starting to fight back, so sucks to be you guys! We’re starting to educate ourselves as to what you people really believe (even though you talk through two mouths).
March 5, 2008 at 8:07 pm
dhimmi (Arabic: ذمي, collectively: أهل الذمة, ahl al-dhimma, the people of the dhimma or pact of protection, Ottoman Turkish zimmi) is a non-Muslim subject of a state governed in accordance with sharia law. The term connotes an obligation of the state to protect the individual, including the individual’s life, property, and freedom of religion and worship, in exchange for “subservience and loyalty to the Muslim order”,[1] and a poll tax known as the jizya.
This status was originally only made available to non-Muslims who were People of the Book (i.e. Jews and Christians), but was later extended to include Sikhs, Zoroastrians, Mandeans, and, in some areas, Hindus[2] and Buddhists.[3][4] Dhimmi had fewer legal and social rights than Muslims, but more rights than other non-Muslim religious subjects.[5] This status applied to millions of people living from the Atlantic Ocean to India from the 7th century until modern times.[6] Over time, many dhimmis converted to Islam. Most conversions were voluntary
March 5, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Hey Mustafa
March 5, 2008 at 10:14 pm
March 5, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Sorry @Kafir I don’t like abusive language on my blog.
March 5, 2008 at 11:28 pm
@Mustafa,I was forced to delete your other comments because this is not a religious blog. I am proud to be a secular citizen of a secular country and my blog reflects my views.All the different faiths of the world are respected in my blog. Religious,athiests, believers ,non believers all are welcome as long as they respect other peoples feelings.
March 5, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Sorry for my abusive language pr3rna.
My sentiments still stand though, and people like me are on the rise. We’ve had it with Islam being paraded around like it is some benevolent force for good. We’ve had it with muslims telling us all the wonderful things that Islam has brought and how muslims are living in peace with everyone, when in fact Islam brings nothing but misery and destruction. ESPECIALLY with all the daily evidence which is contrary to this notion (how many people have died today as a result of a suicide bombing or other jihadi-inspired nonsense).
The internet is going to kill Islam, mark my words – the truth is easier for people to find now, and we don’t need other people telling us what to believe (Akbar was a secularist and a humanist? I think not – he was a typical muslim trying to impose his worldview on everyone around him).
March 6, 2008 at 12:09 am
@ kafir
what is your religion boy?
March 6, 2008 at 12:39 am
@aMaAr
Not Islamic – that’s for damn sure.
Why, you want to issue a fatwa against me BOY?
And maybe you can tell me why you are a slave to ARAB culture? Don’t you know they treat Pakistanis and Indian muslims like crap?
March 6, 2008 at 2:14 am
Kafir,
Of course you are not a Muslim. Because those who follow Islam or any religion never humiliates or abuses other beliefs or religion. Even if you dont follow any religion or God, being a human we dont abuse or humiliate other religions. This is the first thing we learn from parents ie Respect!
But talking to you is like throwing a stone in the puddle of mud. i know in response of this comment you will abuse anyone or anything related me and my religion. So go ahead and let the world know your background and what you have learned while growing up.
March 6, 2008 at 4:42 am
OMG..What’s going on here???
Prerna, Iam surprised that you are tolerating comments of these bigots, most notably Kafir, on your blog. You will do us a favor by banning them..
March 6, 2008 at 5:20 am
Truth hurts don’t it?
And lallopallo, it’s so easy to just sweep under the rug people that don’t agree with you right? The truth is often buried because people refuse to accept it – and guess what, history repeats itself because people didn’t learn from the past.
March 7, 2008 at 9:27 am
ok coming back to jodha akbar. the movie is a masterpiece. amzingly directed… would love to see such movies made and this one will go down in the history as a classic for sure….don’t know if it gets declared as a hit . i watched it many times in theatre and most of the time theatre was full. lets hope there are many more people with artistic instincts.
March 7, 2008 at 11:39 am
Welcome deeps 2981.Thanks for bringing back the discussion on the film.
lallopallo,I have deleted comments and edited them but sometimes I am not able to check the blog everyday.
I would like to use this opportunity to apologise to the readers who have been hurt by bad comments against any religion or followers of any faith on this blog.
I agree with Ammar// those who follow Islam or any religion never humiliates or abuses other beliefs or religion. Even if you dont follow any religion or God, being a human we dont abuse or humiliate other religions.//
March 7, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Prerna, I still dont see Kaafir’s extremely obnoxius -and immature- comments deleted.
March 7, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Prerna:
“I would like to use this opportunity to apologise to the readers who have been hurt by bad comments against any religion or followers of any faith on this blog.”
You need not apologise for comments made by others and for that matter, by you. And in my view, if someone’s faith is so weak as to be “hurt” by random commentary by someone, well, they need to question their faith and themselves rather than the outsider.
Thanks.
March 7, 2008 at 11:35 pm
I can’t disagree with you Shefaly//if someone’s faith is so weak as to be “hurt” by random commentary by someone, well, they need to question their faith and themselves rather than the outsider//,still I don’t see the point in hurting anybody.
lallopallo, you haven’t read the extremely obnoxius ones.I respect the freedom of speech upto a certain level.Most readers are mature enough to distinguish between the right and wrong.
March 8, 2008 at 8:31 am
Dear Prerna,
I am sorry but I have very strong reservations here. This person calls a Prophet –who billions relate to- a Pedophile, calls a religion not his own a pathetic & claims that most Muslims are thugs. If all this comes under respecting freedom of speech on your blog, then Iam sorry to say that you are only giving people like him another platform to vent out their intellectual bankruptcy & frustrations over their quarter baked ideas about organized religion. If that’s not obnoxious for you , then I would request you to allow remaining obnoxious comments too..I don’t think it can go more worst than this.
Organized religion is a very complex subject. The way societies –both in the past & the present- have reacted to it have to do more with the economic, social & political factors existing that time rather than religion concerned. With time, if nothing else, organized religion has at least given a sense of identity to it’s people and a moral code which helped people becoming moral & positive human beings.
I personally don’t believe in organized religion & I call myself an agnostic. I also believe that morality precedes religion and that one could be a moral and an upright person without believing in any religion. I also have reservations against various things said and practiced in all religions.
But, the interesting part is that I have met many beautiful people from all kinds of religions & faiths. Some of these amazing people are very religious people and I see how they draw strength from their faiths to make this world a better place. It has made me wonder & also made me respect their choices. To abuse those people (Muslims in this case) just because a tiny majority of their faiths is misinterpreting religion is highly uncalled for & very primitive.
People such as Kaafir are there in every possible public message boards & forums. They are using this new found tool to promote their hatred & bigotry which is fuelled by anti Islam propaganda by practically all and sundry. It’s very convenient for them to sit behind their anonymous computers and ‘bravely’ challenge others to issue fatwa against them, when in reality they will pee in their pants if they have to discuss all that openly with any Muslim.
Yes, Iam not hurt by any random commentary here ( I have seen many Kaafirs in those unmoderated boards and forums & I just pity them), but I dont consider your blog any random place. I respect your views and think that you epitomize secular ideas in a very positive way. I would have not even cared to comment if it was some other person’s blog or a public message board, but I spent more than an hour writing about it just because I thought your blog should be the last place for person like Kaafir to express his dangerous ignorance & get away with it. Rest, it’s up to you.
March 8, 2008 at 12:45 pm
@lallopallo,
//This person calls a Prophet –who billions relate to- a Pedophile, calls a religion not his own a pathetic & claims that most Muslims are thugs.//where can you read this now? This was the most offensive comment and was deleted as soon as I saw it.I appreciate your views but I still have hope and believe that communication and debate can solve problems.
Thanks for all that effort to put across your views.
March 9, 2008 at 2:48 am
The rajputs screwed the nation and then the muslim invaders screwed them
I am not proud of the way things happened
Thanks to the British that a coalition of small tyrant priencly states in the indian subcontinent was integrated and named “India” . Today we are proud to be the citizens of that great nation, instead of being screwed by some rajput king or a muslim”Sultan”
March 9, 2008 at 3:11 am
“When a legend becomes the truth, print the legend”
March 9, 2008 at 8:31 am
Prerna,
Plz see comment 42 and 44 by Kafir..he wrote about muslims being thugs and their religion being pathetic in those comments..
Yes, I dont see the pedophile one now.but when I wrote my comment, that one was there too.
Thanks anyways..
March 9, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Ilike Kafir’s comments
He is closer to the truth
Lallopallo baby Get a life Dont be so —–
March 12, 2008 at 12:40 am
hey guys gud 2 knw dat so many people r interested in history…i ll like 2 add sum info..acc 2 historians the courtiers frm akbars court alwaz criticized akbar for marryin a rajput hindu n hence nva mentioned her real name in the records n hv mentioned her name as marium-uz-zamani as dey nva wanted d future gen 2 knw dat d succesor of akbar(salim) was partially hindu…apart frm dat evn v 2day hv mre den 1 name for instance r real name is acc 2 our kundali,while our refering name may nt necessasarily b d same..v hv pet names too…so 1 cant deny d fact dat she mite b fondly called as jodha while her real name wud hv bn hira kunwari,harka bai..or sumthin else…few also say dat her name was manmati bt acc 2 few historians she was jahangir’s wife dat 2 his fav till he married nur jahan..
March 12, 2008 at 1:00 am
Welcome AADI and thanks for the information.
March 14, 2008 at 8:34 am
Aadi where are you from? Trinidad or Guyana?
March 15, 2008 at 9:23 am
Wow! Prerna – your blog is really getting to be popular!
I haven’t read all the comments seriously (as I found them to be quite distracting from the original post).
I believe AG and others have now tried to pacify the public by saying that this is not a historically accurate film, but a romantic fantasy film based in history. Yes, he initially tried to justify his research records, but seems to have given up. What can one do, when one is faced with such unwarranted criticism?! Why can’t people just enjoy the film?
March 15, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Yay for censorship!
Let it be known that I have had several of my comments edited and/or deleted because they don’t follow the “party line” of everything being peachy with the Mohammadans and their barbaric faith. So if you have something to say that may offend the poor widdle helpless muslims, expect it to be censored. Afterall, can’t have the truth get out about Mohammad and or Islam right!
Indians – spineless appeasers.
March 19, 2008 at 7:53 am
Regardless of the historical accuracy,I believe that it is a great film. We should enjoy it and appreciate it from aesthetic point of view rather than a historical one.
April 18, 2008 at 11:32 pm
this movie was great it has a lot of the accuracy of the story that my cousin told me about. it really captures your attention and the love story is very cute, i think its a great film.
February 16, 2009 at 2:12 pm
who cares? and how does it matter whether Jodha bai was Akbar’s wife OR Salim’s. Few illiterate stupid convinced bunch of idiots about history and they involved in guda-gardi… shame man… shame on us… throw these fundamentalist out of our country, because they are sick.
April 5, 2009 at 4:56 am
I watched the movie, it was good love story. I dont know the history of the mughals or anything. All i know is that it was wrong for the filmakers to portray Akbar as muslim, He wasn’t a muslim. Muslims CAN NOT marry hindus or from or into any other religion, apart from christianity and Islam. therefore calling akbar muslim is wrong. Secondly he belived in all religions, being a muslim you can not do that.
The film makers did not include the so called religion he invented, which again, being a muslim you can not do.
I would like to take this opportunity and send out a message to anyone on this blog. Islam is not what you see on the news, internet or other forms of media. If you want to see Islam, I suggest you look up the word hajj.
Thankyou.
April 5, 2009 at 5:01 am
Muslims dont ridicule other religions, please don’t mock Islam.
You dont want anyone mocking your religion would you.
It’s very offensive and only puts you down.